L. Tom Perry
The comment regarding the Savior’s dual citizenship, both heaven and earth, speaks to an interesting concept. Do we claim dual citizenship also? As I pondered this topic, I was reminded of what Christ taught Nicodemus. We have to be been born both of the earth and of heaven. The baptism of water can represent the earthly baptism while the baptism of the spirit can be viewed as being ‘born’ from above.
I know of only one place in the scriptures where the idea of what clothing is worn is identified as important to the Sabbath observance. The Zoramites dressed in their fine clothing on this day. The following is Alma’s response to the situation.
“Behold, O my God, their costly apparel, and their ringlets, and their bracelets, and their ornaments of gold, and all their precious things which they are ornamented with; and behold, their hearts are set upon them, and yet they cry unto thee and say—We thank thee, O God, for we are a chosen people unto thee, while others shall perish.” Alma 31:28
Do we indirectly cast people out of our places of worship but placing artificial constraints on what people can wear?
Elder Perry indicated that the young priesthood holders prepare and bless the sacrament in the same way as the Savior did. I beg to differ. I have outlined my thoughts on how the church has deviated from the way that the sacrament is administered by the Lord in Third Nephi.
Is our justification for the differences sufficient?
What can we learn from children – humility, obedience, and love… I would have hoped that Sister Stevens could have linked this directly to the doctrine of Christ as found in Third Nephi, chapter 11:
“37 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or ye can in nowise receive these things.
38 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and be baptized in my name, and become as a little child, or ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God.”
We are told that this is the doctrine of Christ and that declaring more or less than this is unsatisfactory.
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Walter F. Gonzalez
Followers of Christ are loving people and make covenants – sacrament and temple attendance. I find it interesting that the Book of Mormon, which contains the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ, speaks clearly on the need to perform the ordinance of the sacrament according to the example of the Savior but says nothing regarding the need to attend the temple. Has this ‘covenant’ been placed by man or by God?
Kent F. Richards
No pain is wasted – adds to our understanding. That is much easier to say after the pain is over…
Elder Richards quotes from the definition of the Gospel of Jesus Christ found in Third Nephi, chapter 21:
“14 And my Father sent me that I might be lifted up upon the cross; and after that I had been lifted up upon the cross, that I might draw all men unto me, that as I have been lifted up by men even so should men be lifted up by the Father, to stand before me, to be judged of their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil—
15 And for this cause have I been lifted up; therefore, according to the power of the Father I will draw all men unto me, that they may be judged according to their works.”
Is there any conflict between the gospel definition of the purpose to draw all men unto Christ and the dictate to ‘follow the prophet?’ Shouldn’t the mission of the church be to bring people to Christ rather than swear allegiance to a man?
Healed by the power of the lamb of God – where is that healing today? We read in Fourth Nephi, that the church that was established by Christ among the Nephites was led by twelve disciples who performed the miracles as a sign of the veracity of their organization.
“5 And there were great and marvelous works wrought by the disciples of Jesus, insomuch that they did heal the sick, and raise the dead, and cause the lame to walk, and the blind to receive their sight, and the deaf to hear; and all manner of miracles did they work among the children of men; and in nothing did they work miracles save it were in the name of Jesus.”