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And it came to pass that he came unto me, and on this wise did he speak unto me, saying: Brother Jacob, I have sought much opportunity that I might speak unto you; for I have heard and also know that thou goest about much, preaching that which ye call the gospel, or the doctrine of Christ. (Jacob 7:6)

For many years, I read this scripture as equating the gospel and doctrine of Christ, but as I pondered the question recently, I was led in a different direction. There were a couple of things that were of concern. First, these words were spoken by Sherem, a man who denied Christ. Should we be using the words of such a man to drive our thinking? Perhaps not.

Secondly, as I read the specific references to these two topics, the gospel of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of Christ, I came away with a different perspective. The gospel and doctrine are closely related but also different. One way to characterize the two is to consider that the gospel is the “what” of salvation while the doctrine adds the “how.”

We are told in Joseph Smith, History that the fulness of the gospel is contained in the words delivered to the Nephites by Jesus Christ.

He said there was a book deposited, written upon gold plates, giving an account of the former inhabitants of this continent, and the source from whence they sprang.  He also said that the fulness of the everlasting Gospel was contained in it, as delivered by the Savior to the ancient inhabitants; (Joseph Smith, History 1:34)

As one reads of the Savior’s visit to the people of the Book of Mormon. I would suggest that the definition of the gospel is found therein. The following is from the twenty-seventh chapter of Third Nephi:

13  Behold I have given unto you my gospel, and this is the gospel which I have given unto you—that I came into the world to do the will of my Father, because my Father sent me.

14  And my Father sent me that I might be lifted up upon the cross; and after that I had been lifted up upon the cross, that I might draw all men unto me, that as I have been lifted up by men even so should men be lifted up by the Father, to stand before me, to be judged of their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil—

15  And for this cause have I been lifted up; therefore, according to the power of the Father I will draw all men unto me, that they may be judged according to their works.

16  And it shall come to pass, that whoso repenteth and is baptized in my name shall be filled; and if he endureth to the end, behold, him will I hold guiltless before my Father at that day when I shall stand to judge the world.

17  And he that endureth not unto the end, the same is he that is also hewn down and cast into the fire, from whence they can no more return, because of the justice of the Father.

18  And this is the word which he hath given unto the children of men.  And for this cause he fulfilleth the words which he hath given, and he lieth not, but fulfilleth all his words.

19  And no unclean thing can enter into his kingdom; therefore nothing entereth into his rest save it be those who have washed their garments in my blood, because of their faith, and the repentance of all their sins, and their faithfulness unto the end.

20  Now this is the commandment: Repent, all ye ends of the earth, and come unto me and be baptized in my name, that ye may be sanctified by the reception of the Holy Ghost, that ye may stand spotless before me at the last day.

21  Verily, verily, I say unto you, this is my gospel; and ye know the things that ye must do in my church; for the works which ye have seen me do that shall ye also do; for that which ye have seen me do even that shall ye do;

If I were to summarize the gospel as presented in these words, I would suggest the following:

  • Christ came to draw all mankind to Him in order to be judged

  • Repentance and baptism followed by enduring to the end is necessary to be sanctified

  • We can have our sins washed away by faith, repentance and endurance. This is necessary if we are to participate in the kingdom of God.

  • It is through the reception of the Holy Ghost that we are sanctified

The fulness of the gospel, as defined by Christ, is to apply the atonement of Christ to our lives in order to abide the presence of God. We must exhibit faith, be baptized, and endure to the end to qualify for admittance to His presence.

There are three other places in the scriptures where the gospel is defined.

Yea, repent and be baptized, every one of you, for a remission of your sins; yea, be baptized even by water, and then cometh the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost.

Behold, verily, verily, I say unto you, this is my gospel; and remember that they shall have faith in me or they can in nowise be saved; (D&C 33:11-12)

Here we have the same formula, repentance, baptism and having our sins washed away.

And this is my gospel—repentance and baptism by water, and then cometh the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, even the Comforter, which showeth all things, and teacheth the peaceable things of the kingdom. (D&C 36:9)

The last specific reference to the gospel of Jesus Christ is found in section 76 of the Doctrine and Covenants

40  And this is the gospel, the glad tidings, which the voice out of the heavens bore record unto us—

41  That he came into the world, even Jesus, to be crucified for the world, and to bear the sins of the world, and to sanctify the world, and to cleanse it from all unrighteousness;

42  That through him all might be saved whom the Father had put into his power and made by him;

The same theme is repeated here. It is through the application of the atonement of Jesus Christ in our lives that we are able to have our sins cleansed.

So, how does this line up with the doctrine of Christ? There are several places in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants that specifically refer to the doctrine of Christ. The first introduction is found in the words of Nephi beginning in chapter 31 of Second Nephi and continuing through the sixth verse of chapter 32. While it is long, I will quote it here:

2  Wherefore, the things which I have written sufficeth me, save it be a few words which I must speak concerning the doctrine of Christ; wherefore, I shall speak unto you plainly, according to the plainness of my prophesying.

3  For my soul delighteth in plainness; for after this manner doth the Lord God work among the children of men.  For the Lord God giveth light unto the understanding; for he speaketh unto men according to their language, unto their understanding.

4  Wherefore, I would that ye should remember that I have spoken unto you concerning that prophet which the Lord showed unto me, that should baptize the Lamb of God, which should take away the sins of the world.

5  And now, if the Lamb of God, he being holy, should have need to be baptized by water, to fulfil all righteousness, O then, how much more need have we, being unholy, to be baptized, yea, even by water!

6  And now, I would ask of you, my beloved brethren, wherein the Lamb of God did fulfil all righteousness in being baptized by water?

7  Know ye not that he was holy?  But notwithstanding he being holy, he showeth unto the children of men that, according to the flesh he humbleth himself before the Father, and witnesseth unto the Father that he would be obedient unto him in keeping his commandments.

8  Wherefore, after he was baptized with water the Holy Ghost descended upon him in the form of a dove.

9  And again, it showeth unto the children of men the straitness of the path, and the narrowness of the gate, by which they should enter, he having set the example before them.

10  And he said unto the children of men: Follow thou me.  Wherefore, my beloved brethren, can we follow Jesus save we shall be willing to keep the commandments of the Father?

11  And the Father said: Repent ye, repent ye, and be baptized in the name of my Beloved Son.

12  And also, the voice of the Son came unto me, saying: He that is baptized in my name, to him will the Father give the Holy Ghost, like unto me; wherefore, follow me, and do the things which ye have seen me do.

13  Wherefore, my beloved brethren, I know that if ye shall follow the Son, with full purpose of heart, acting no hypocrisy and no deception before God, but with real intent, repenting of your sins, witnessing unto the Father that ye are willing to take upon you the name of Christ, by baptism—yea, by following your Lord and your Savior down into the water, according to his word, behold, then shall ye receive the Holy Ghost; yea, then cometh the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost; and then can ye speak with the tongue of angels, and shout praises unto the Holy One of Israel.

14  But, behold, my beloved brethren, thus came the voice of the Son unto me, saying: After ye have repented of your sins, and witnessed unto the Father that ye are willing to keep my commandments, by the baptism of water, and have received the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost, and can speak with a new tongue, yea, even with the tongue of angels, and after this should deny me, it would have been better for you that ye had not known me.

15  And I heard a voice from the Father, saying: Yea, the words of my Beloved are true and faithful.  He that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved.

16  And now, my beloved brethren, I know by this that unless a man shall endure to the end, in following the example of the Son of the living God, he cannot be saved.

17  Wherefore, do the things which I have told you I have seen that your Lord and your Redeemer should do; for, for this cause have they been shown unto me, that ye might know the gate by which ye should enter.  For the gate by which ye should enter is repentance and baptism by water; and then cometh a remission of your sins by fire and by the Holy Ghost.

18  And then are ye in this strait and narrow path which leads to eternal life; yea, ye have entered in by the gate; ye have done according to the commandments of the Father and the Son; and ye have received the Holy Ghost, which witnesses of the Father and the Son, unto the fulfilling of the promise which he hath made, that if ye entered in by the way ye should receive.

19  And now, my beloved brethren, after ye have gotten into this strait and narrow path, I would ask if all is done?  Behold, I say unto you, Nay; for ye have not come thus far save it were by the word of Christ with unshaken faith in him, relying wholly upon the merits of him who is mighty to save.

20  Wherefore, ye must press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope, and a love of God and of all men.  Wherefore, if ye shall press forward, feasting upon the word of Christ, and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father: Ye shall have eternal life.

21  And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the way; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God.  And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end.  Amen.

 CHAPTER 32

1  AND now, behold, my beloved brethren, I suppose that ye ponder somewhat in your hearts concerning that which ye should do after ye have entered in by the way.  But, behold, why do ye ponder these things in your hearts?

2  Do ye not remember that I said unto you that after ye had received the Holy Ghost ye could speak with the tongue of angels?  And now, how could ye speak with the tongue of angels save it were by the Holy Ghost?

3  Angels speak by the power of the Holy Ghost; wherefore, they speak the words of Christ.  Wherefore, I said unto you, feast upon the words of Christ; for behold, the words of Christ will tell you all things what ye should do.

4  Wherefore, now after I have spoken these words, if ye cannot understand them it will be because ye ask not, neither do ye knock; wherefore, ye are not brought into the light, but must perish in the dark.

5  For behold, again I say unto you that if ye will enter in by the way, and receive the Holy Ghost, it will show unto you all things what ye should do.

6  Behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and there will be no more doctrine given until after he shall manifest himself unto you in the flesh.  And when he shall manifest himself unto you in the flesh, the things which he shall say unto you shall ye observe to do.

7  And now I, Nephi, cannot say more; the Spirit stoppeth mine utterance, and I am left to mourn because of the unbelief, and the wickedness, and the ignorance, and the stiffneckedness of men; for they will not search knowledge, nor understand great knowledge, when it is given unto them in plainness, even as plain as word can be.

Here is how I would summarize these words:

  • Christ fulfilled all righteousness by being baptized by water and then having the Holy Ghost  descend upon him.

  • We are to follow the example of Christ and be baptised by water and by fire and the Holy Ghost

  • To follow Christ, we must keep the commandments of the Father – Repent and be baptized

  • We are to follow Christ with full purpose of heart, exhibit no hypocrisy or deception, repent and show a willingness to take upon the name of Christ through water baptism

  • We can then receive the Holy Ghost through the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost which will enable us to speak with the tongue of angels

  • After reaching this point where we can speak with the tongue of angels and then deny Christ, it will not be good.

  • We must endure to the end in order to be saved

  • The gate to the strait and narrow is repentance, baptism by water, receiving a remission of sins by the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost

  • We have followed the commandments by passing through this gate, now we must press forward with hope and love of God and all men.

  • We are to receive personal revelation through feasting on the word of Christ

  • We must endure to the end to have eternal life.

  • Chapter 31 contains the doctrine of Christ and the only and true doctrine of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost

  • Angels speak the words of Christ by the power of the Holy Ghost

  • By feasting on the words of Christ, we will be presented with all things that we should do.

In Third Nephi, chapter eleven, we have the further expansion of the doctrine of Christ. Nephi stated that there would be no other doctrine until Christ came in the flesh which is recorded here:

31  Behold, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will declare unto you my doctrine.

32  And this is my doctrine, and it is the doctrine which the Father hath given unto me; and I bear record of the Father, and the Father beareth record of me, and the Holy Ghost beareth record of the Father and me; and I bear record that the Father commandeth all men, everywhere, to repent and believe in me.

33  And whoso believeth in me, and is baptized, the same shall be saved; and they are they who shall inherit the kingdom of God.

34  And whoso believeth not in me, and is not baptized, shall be damned.

35  Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my doctrine, and I bear record of it from the Father; and whoso believeth in me believeth in the Father also; and unto him will the Father bear record of me, for he will visit him with fire and with the Holy Ghost.

36  And thus will the Father bear record of me, and the Holy Ghost will bear record unto him of the Father and me; for the Father, and I, and the Holy Ghost are one.

37  And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or ye can in nowise receive these things.

38  And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and be baptized in my name, and become as a little child, or ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God.

39  Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my doctrine, and whoso buildeth upon this buildeth upon my rock, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against them.

40  And whoso shall declare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil, and is not built upon my rock; but he buildeth upon a sandy foundation, and the gates of hell stand open to receive such when the floods come and the winds beat upon them.

41  Therefore, go forth unto this people, and declare the words which I have spoken, unto the ends of the earth.

Again to summarize the doctrine of Christ found here, I would suggest the following:

  • Salvation is available to those who repent, believe and are baptized

  • We must repent and be baptized and become as a little child

  • We should not expand the doctrine of Christ to contain anything else

In viewing the scripture references above, I would suggest that the gospel of Jesus Christ is the foundation and core of the doctrine of Christ. We are given the gospel and are told that we must follow the example of Jesus Christ. We are told what we must do once the gospel of Christ has sanctified us. We are told that we must continue to be humble and teachable, traits of a little child.  We are to strive to embrace the words of Christ and apply them in our lives. The doctrine of Christ explains how the gospel can be applied and how it can be the basis for our lives.

What think ye?

17 Responses to “The Gospel as the Core of the Doctrine of Christ”

  • Log:

    Sherem was citing Jacob himself – “That which YE call the gospel, or the doctrine of Christ.” Therefore, I suggest that the gospel of Christ and the doctrine of Christ are essentially interchangeable wherever they occur in scripture; at least there doesn’t seem to be additional light and knowledge to be had from drawing a distinction between them.

    But hey, can’t go far wrong teaching repentance, faith, baptism by water, and baptism by fire (D&C 19:31)!

    Indeed, we need to be sticking with repentance and faith in God (Mosiah 25:22).

    Specifically, repentance (D&C 11:9).

    Which throughout the Book of Mormon means to repent from all sin (laying aside everything which divides us from God) and calling upon God for forgiveness, and to receive his Spirit, until we receive acknowledgement directly from him that our offering is accepted.

    • Spektator:

      You might assume that Sherem is quoting Jacob. One might also assume that he was trying to twist the words to try to catch Jacob. I would suggest that one compare the doctrine as defined by Christ when he was among the Nephites found in 3 Nephi 11 with the definition He provided to the same group in 3 Nephi, chapter 27. Are they ‘essentially interchargeable?’ My study suggest they are not.

      In my analysis, they are not identical. I believe that the core of the doctrine of Christ is the gospel, but that the doctrine of Christ can contain other aspects relative to how He wishes to see things operate. For example, in D&C, section 10, one finds:

      “67 Behold, this is my doctrine—whosoever repenteth and cometh unto me, the same is my church.
      68 Whosoever declareth more or less than this, the same is not of me, but is against me; therefore he is not of my church.
      69 And now, behold, whosoever is of my church, and endureth of my church to the end, him will I establish upon my rock, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against them.”

      Should this be identified as the gospel of Christ when He states that anything more or less than this is not of Him? I believe the statement above relates to the doctrine of Christ as it to the definition of His church.

      The purpose for us, in my opinion, is to strive to clearly understand both the gospel and the doctrine of Christ and apply it in our lives.

  • Spektator:

    Log,
    If one looks specifically at what is defined as the gospel versus what is defined as the doctrine of Christ as found in the scriptures, there are differences. Does the gospel definition include the need to become as a little child? Does the gospel speak of angels speaking the words of Christ?

    I do see these subtle differences as distinct from the gospel. Does the gospel speak to what we are to do after we are on the strait and narrow path, what we should be doing as we endure to the end? Again, I see these items in the doctrine of Christ as it addresses the implications of adhering to the gospel of Christ. Of course, your mileage may vary.

    Spek

  • JR:

    The Doctrine of Christ is the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    It begins with those who are seeking to find Christ:
    (1 Nephi 8:21-24) “And I saw numberless concourses of people, many of whom were pressing forward, that they might obtain the path which led unto the tree by which I stood. And it came to pass that they did come forth, and commence in the path which led to the tree. And it came to pass that there arose a mist of darkness; yea, even an exceedingly great mist of darkness, insomuch that they who had commenced in the path did lose their way, that they wandered off and were lost. And it came to pass that I beheld others pressing forward, and they came forth and caught hold of the end of the rod of iron; and they did press forward through the mist of darkness, clinging to the rod of iron, even until they did come forth and partake of the fruit of the tree.”

    And continues until they are brought into the Savior’s presence to be taught by Him face to face:
    (2 Nephi 32:6) “Behold, this is the Doctrine of Christ, and there will be no more doctrine given until after He shall manifest Himself unto you in the flesh. And when He shall manifest Himself unto you in the flesh, the things which He shall say unto you shall ye observe to do.”

    Nephi’s vision of the Tree of Life and the Doctrine of Christ are one story, told first from the perspective of an inexperienced youth; then reiterated and restated in different terms with different emphasis by an old man soon to pass from mortality. This story is rich with symbolism and filled with important details explaining the fullness of the Gospel.

    It is one continuum from desiring to believe (seeking) clear through to seeing the face of the Lord.
    JR

    • Spektator:

      JR,
      In my study, the only term I have found that equates to the fullness of the gospel is found in D&C 66:2.

      Verily I say unto you, blessed are you for receiving mine everlasting covenant, even the fulness of my gospel, sent forth unto the children of men, that they might have life and be made partakers of the glories which are to be revealed in the last days, as it was written by the prophets and apostles in days of old

      .

      As far as I can tell, the treatment of the doctrine of Christ by Nephi starts in 2 Nephi, chapter 31:

      Wherefore, the things which I have written sufficeth me, save it be a few words which I must speak concerning the doctrine of Christ; wherefore, I shall speak unto you plainly, according to the plainness of my prophesying.

      I read this to implythat the previous writings of Nephi weren’t considered to be the doctrine of Christ.

  • JR:

    By the way…incredible topic and very, very appropriate to this particular time in which we live today.
    JR

  • JR:

    Spek,
    The Doctrine of Christ is the FULLNESS of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. In many places in the scriptures we are only given bits and pieces of the Gospel. IMHO, the Doctrine encompasses the fullness, while much of what we read of elsewhere does not but instead gives just pieces.
    I can’t tell you how much I love this topic and how grateful I am for you posting this discussion!
    If we studied this topic and NOTHING else in the scriptures, we would have an understanding that would bring us to eternal life. Think carefully of what the Rod of Iron is, in terms of what Nephi later spoke of as the Words of Christ. Think of speaking the Words of Christ after we receive the BFHG. This doctrine (or Doctrine) is beautiful and life giving and is the parting message Nephi chose to give us as he summed up the Gospel for us!
    Thank you again my beloved brother.
    JR

  • EvenTheLeastSaint:

    2 Nephi 32:6

    6 Behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and there will be no more doctrine given until after he shall manifest himself unto you in the flesh. And when he shall manifest himself unto you in the flesh, the things which he shall say unto you shall ye observe to do.

    Ahhh, now we have the crux of the whole matter; the FULLNESS of the Gospel. We see here the whole purpose of faith, repentance, baptism by water, and baptism by fire and the Holy Ghost; the whole purpose of entering into the strait and narrow path by the strait gate. It is to receive Christ (The Tree of Life) in the flesh, and when you do receive Him in the flesh and receive “the things which He shall say unto you”, this constitutes receiving the Fulness of the Gospel.

    Mormon returns to this idea in the book of Ether:

    7 And in that day that they shall exercise faith in me, saith the Lord, even as the brother of Jared did, that they may become sanctified in me, then will I manifest unto them the things which the brother of Jared saw, even to the unfolding unto them all my revelations, saith Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of the heavens and of the earth, and all things that in them are.
    Ether 4:7

    In the D&C The Lord tells us that the Church has already rejected the fullness of the Gospel:

    23 Now this Moses plainly taught to the children of Israel in the wilderness, and sought diligently to sanctify his people that they might behold the face of God;
    24 But they hardened their hearts and could not endure his presence; therefore, the Lord in his wrath, for his anger was kindled against them, swore that they should not enter into his rest while in the wilderness, which rest is the fulness of his glory.
    D&C 84:23-24

    Here the Lord tells us what He is expecting of His people. Of coarse he is speaking of both Israel of old, and of His restored church if they too refuse to come into His presence (which already happened in Joseph Smith’s day). He makes it even more clear that He is speaking of His restored Church, later in verse 55, where He declares that the church is under condemnation. When I think of condemnation in this context, I think of a man condemned to death waiting for his sentence to be carried out unless of coarse he receives a pardon from the governor. In the case of the Church, a pardon will not be received unless we (the Church) repents and does what the Lord expects.

    Gladly, we see in the above quote from Ether that some of the Gentiles will exercise faith as the Brother of Jared and will receive the fullness of the Gospel.

    Thanks, this is my view of things at this time, no one is obligated to agree.

    • Spektator:

      Let me add one additional component that, I think relates to the knowledge that was revealed to the likes of Ether, Enoch, Nephi, etc. They was given to know the mysteries of God in full, as described in Alma, chapter 12.

      As I see it, the diagram is a series of concentric rings with the gospel in the center. The next ring is the doctrine, and the final ring is the mysteries. We have to work from the inside out to, as Joseph Smith was told in D and C 76:

      5 For thus saith the Lord—I, the Lord, am merciful and gracious unto those who fear me, and delight to honor those who serve me in righteousness and in truth unto the end.
      6 Great shall be their reward and eternal shall be their glory.
      7 And to them will I reveal all mysteries, yea, all the hidden mysteries of my kingdom from days of old, and for ages to come, will I make known unto them the good pleasure of my will concerning all things pertaining to my kingdom.

      That is what I believe should be our goal regarding knowledge and wisdom, to receive all that the Father has. Nephi and his father were shown the world from beginning to end. I hope I may someday warrant that blessing.

  • Log:

    There is far too much for me to adequately document out of this passage, but take this to heart.

    6 And now, I, Moroni, would speak somewhat concerning these things; I would show unto the world that faith is things which are hoped for and not seen; wherefore, dispute not because ye see not, for ye receive no witness until after the trial of your faith.

    7 For it was by faith that Christ showed himself unto our fathers, after he had risen from the dead; and he showed not himself unto them until after they had faith in him; wherefore, it must needs be that some had faith in him, for he showed himself not unto the world.

    8 But because of the faith of men he has shown himself unto the world, and glorified the name of the Father, and prepared a way that thereby others might be partakers of the heavenly gift, that they might hope for those things which they have not seen.

    9 Wherefore, ye may also have hope, and be partakers of the gift, if ye will but have faith.

    10 Behold it was by faith that they of old were called after the holy order of God.

    11 Wherefore, by faith was the law of Moses given. But in the gift of his Son hath God prepared a more excellent way; and it is by faith that it hath been fulfilled.

    12 For if there be no faith among the children of men God can do no miracle among them; wherefore, he showed not himself until after their faith.

    13 Behold, it was the faith of Alma and Amulek that caused the prison to tumble to the earth.

    14 Behold, it was the faith of Nephi and Lehi that wrought the change upon the Lamanites, that they were baptized with fire and with the Holy Ghost.

    15 Behold, it was the faith of Ammon and his brethren which wrought so great a miracle among the Lamanites.

    16 Yea, and even all they who wrought miracles wrought them by faith, even those who were before Christ and also those who were after.

    17 And it was by faith that the three disciples obtained a promise that they should not taste of death; and they obtained not the promise until after their faith.

    18 And neither at any time hath any wrought miracles until after their faith; wherefore they first believed in the Son of God.

    19 And there were many whose faith was so exceedingly strong, even before Christ came, who could not be kept from within the veil, but truly saw with their eyes the things which they had beheld with an eye of faith, and they were glad.

    20 And behold, we have seen in this record that one of these was the brother of Jared; for so great was his faith in God, that when God put forth his finger he could not hide it from the sight of the brother of Jared, because of his word which he had spoken unto him, which word he had obtained by faith.

    21 And after the brother of Jared had beheld the finger of the Lord, because of the promise which the brother of Jared had obtained by faith, the Lord could not withhold anything from his sight; wherefore he showed him all things, for he could no longer be kept without the veil.

    22 And it is by faith that my fathers have obtained the promise that these things should come unto their brethren through the Gentiles; therefore the Lord hath commanded me, yea, even Jesus Christ.

    23 And I said unto him: Lord, the Gentiles will mock at these things, because of our weakness in writing; for Lord thou hast made us mighty in word by faith, but thou hast not made us mighty in writing; for thou hast made all this people that they could speak much, because of the Holy Ghost which thou hast given them;

    24 And thou hast made us that we could write but little, because of the awkwardness of our hands. Behold, thou hast not made us mighty in writing like unto the brother of Jared, for thou madest him that the things which he wrote were mighty even as thou art, unto the overpowering of man to read them.

    25 Thou hast also made our words powerful and great, even that we cannot write them; wherefore, when we write we behold our weakness, and stumble because of the placing of our words; and I fear lest the Gentiles shall mock at our words.

    26 And when I had said this, the Lord spake unto me, saying: Fools mock, but they shall mourn; and my grace is sufficient for the meek, that they shall take no advantage of your weakness;

    27 And if men come unto me I will show unto them their weakness. I give unto men weakness that they may be humble; and my grace is sufficient for all men that humble themselves before me; for if they humble themselves before me, and have faith in me, then will I make weak things become strong unto them.

    28 Behold, I will show unto the Gentiles their weakness, and I will show unto them that faith, hope and charity bringeth unto me—the fountain of all righteousness.

    29 And I, Moroni, having heard these words, was comforted, and said: O Lord, thy righteous will be done, for I know that thou workest unto the children of men according to their faith;

    30 For the brother of Jared said unto the mountain Zerin, Remove—and it was removed. And if he had not had faith it would not have moved; wherefore thou workest after men have faith.

    31 For thus didst thou manifest thyself unto thy disciples; for after they had faith, and did speak in thy name, thou didst show thyself unto them in great power.

    32 And I also remember that thou hast said that thou hast prepared a house for man, yea, even among the mansions of thy Father, in which man might have a more excellent hope; wherefore man must hope, or he cannot receive an inheritance in the place which thou hast prepared.

    33 And again, I remember that thou hast said that thou hast loved the world, even unto the laying down of thy life for the world, that thou mightest take it again to prepare a place for the children of men.

    34 And now I know that this love which thou hast had for the children of men is charity; wherefore, except men shall have charity they cannot inherit that place which thou hast prepared in the mansions of thy Father.

    35 Wherefore, I know by this thing which thou hast said, that if the Gentiles have not charity, because of our weakness, that thou wilt prove them, and take away their talent, yea, even that which they have received, and give unto them who shall have more abundantly.

    36 And it came to pass that I prayed unto the Lord that he would give unto the Gentiles grace, that they might have charity.

    37 And it came to pass that the Lord said unto me: If they have not charity it mattereth not unto thee, thou hast been faithful; wherefore, thy garments shall be made clean. And because thou hast seen thy weakness thou shalt be made strong, even unto the sitting down in the place which I have prepared in the mansions of my Father.

    38 And now I, Moroni, bid farewell unto the Gentiles, yea, and also unto my brethren whom I love, until we shall meet before the judgment-seat of Christ, where all men shall know that my garments are not spotted with your blood.

    39 And then shall ye know that I have seen Jesus, and that he hath talked with me face to face, and that he told me in plain humility, even as a man telleth another in mine own language, concerning these things;

    40 And only a few have I written, because of my weakness in writing.

    41 And now, I would commend you to seek this Jesus of whom the prophets and apostles have written, that the grace of God the Father, and also the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost, which beareth record of them, may be and abide in you forever. Amen.

    Remember these things too.

    3 Nephi 8:1
    1 And now it came to pass that according to our record, and we know our record to be true, for behold, it was a just man who did keep the record—for he truly did many miracles in the name of Jesus; and there was not any man who could do a miracle in the name of Jesus save he were cleansed every whit from his iniquity—

    What do you think the relationship between faith and being cleansed every whit from one’s iniquity is?

    Helaman 5:41
    41 And Aminadab said unto them: You must repent, and cry unto the voice, even until ye shall have faith in Christ, who was taught unto you by Alma, and Amulek, and Zeezrom; and when ye shall do this, the cloud of darkness shall be removed from overshadowing you.

    And what is the relationship therefore between faith and charity?

    42 Wherefore, if a man have faith he must needs have hope; for without faith there cannot be any hope.

    43 And again, behold I say unto you that he cannot have faith and hope, save he shall be meek, and lowly of heart.

    44 If so, his faith and hope is vain, for none is acceptable before God, save the meek and lowly in heart; and if a man be meek and lowly in heart, and confesses by the power of the Holy Ghost that Jesus is the Christ, he must needs have charity; for if he have not charity he is nothing; wherefore he must needs have charity.

    45 And charity suffereth long, and is kind, and envieth not, and is not puffed up, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil, and rejoiceth not in iniquity but rejoiceth in the truth, beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

    46 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, if ye have not charity, ye are nothing, for charity never faileth. Wherefore, cleave unto charity, which is the greatest of all, for all things must fail—

    47 But charity is the pure love of Christ, and it endureth forever; and whoso is found possessed of it at the last day, it shall be well with him.

    48 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, pray unto the Father with all the energy of heart, that ye may be filled with this love, which he hath bestowed upon all who are true followers of his Son, Jesus Christ; that ye may become the sons of God; that when he shall appear we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is; that we may have this hope; that we may be purified even as he is pure. Amen.

    24 Behold, my son, this thing ought not to be; for repentance is unto them that are under condemnation and under the curse of a broken law.

    25 And the first fruits of repentance is baptism; and baptism cometh by faith unto the fulfilling the commandments; and the fulfilling the commandments bringeth remission of sins;

    26 And the remission of sins bringeth meekness, and lowliness of heart; and because of meekness and lowliness of heart cometh the visitation of the Holy Ghost, which Comforter filleth with hope and perfect love, which love endureth by diligence unto prayer, until the end shall come, when all the saints shall dwell with God.

    57 Wherefore teach it unto your children, that all men, everywhere, must repent, or they can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God, for no unclean thing can dwell there, or dwell in his presence; for, in the language of Adam, Man of Holiness is his name, and the name of his Only Begotten is the Son of Man, even Jesus Christ, a righteous Judge, who shall come in the meridian of time.

    58 Therefore I give unto you a commandment, to teach these things freely unto your children, saying:

    59 That by reason of transgression cometh the fall, which fall bringeth death, and inasmuch as ye were born into the world by water, and blood, and the spirit, which I have made, and so became of dust a living soul, even so ye must be born again into the kingdom of heaven, of water, and of the Spirit, and be cleansed by blood, even the blood of mine Only Begotten; that ye might be sanctified from all sin, and enjoy the words of eternal life in this world, and eternal life in the world to come, even immortal glory;

    60 For by the water ye keep the commandment; by the Spirit ye are justified, and by the blood ye are sanctified;

    61 Therefore it is given to abide in you; the record of heaven; the Comforter; the peaceable things of immortal glory; the truth of all things; that which quickeneth all things, which maketh alive all things; that which knoweth all things, and hath all power according to wisdom, mercy, truth, justice, and judgment.

    62 And now, behold, I say unto you: This is the plan of salvation unto all men, through the blood of mine Only Begotten, who shall come in the meridian of time.

    63 And behold, all things have their likeness, and all things are created and made to bear record of me, both things which are temporal, and things which are spiritual; things which are in the heavens above, and things which are on the earth, and things which are in the earth, and things which are under the earth, both above and beneath: all things bear record of me.

    64 And it came to pass, when the Lord had spoken with Adam, our father, that Adam cried unto the Lord, and he was caught away by the Spirit of the Lord, and was carried down into the water, and was laid under the water, and was brought forth out of the water.

    65 And thus he was baptized, and the Spirit of God descended upon him, and thus he was born of the Spirit, and became quickened in the inner man.

    66 And he heard a voice out of heaven, saying: Thou art baptized with fire, and with the Holy Ghost. This is the record of the Father, and the Son, from henceforth and forever;

    67 And thou art after the order of him who was without beginning of days or end of years, from all eternity to all eternity.

    68 Behold, thou art one in me, a son of God; and thus may all become my sons. Amen.

    I trust the thrust of all of that is plain.

  • Kenny:

    I love learning about the Gospel/Doctrine of Christ! I tried to make it a big focus in what I taught on my mission.

    • Spektator:

      So… Kenny, has your view of what the gospel and the doctrine of Christ changed since you taught these topics on your mission?

      I have to say that given I was in a foreign mission in the 70’s, I didn’t deviate from the prescribed language of the lessons. In hindsight, I didn’t really understand what I was teaching at the time…

  • JR:

    I find it terribly disappointing that a lively discussion of this topic has not developed. Why is there so little interest in this topic which is perhaps the MOST important topic we could discuss? This IS the Gospel of Jesus Christ, not the trite, filtered, digested church correlated pap we study in Sunday School and Priesthood manuals!
    Why is it that only the Savior can take us through The Gate? Why and how are we to develop a love of God and of all men? How are we to proceed through the straight (or is it strait) and narrow path? How do we approach The Gate? What does it mean to hear the Words of Christ? What does it mean to speak the Words of Christ? What is it the Savior will teach us when we finally make it through the path and see Him face to face? What lies beyond that meeting with the Savior?
    There is SO MUCH here. This is literally THE Gospel of Jesus Christ.
    JR

  • Log:

    JR,

    Can we develop a love of God and of all men? If it were possible to develop a love of God and of all men, what need would there be for a Savior?

    And we don’t need to talk about what happens after we enter the gate – because we learn that directly (2 Nephi 32).

  • Spektator:

    If I read the experience of the people of Benjamin correctly. It wasn’t until after they had received the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost that they could make a real covenant with God and where they could truly view the needs of their fellow men in the right perspective as described in Mosiah, chapter 5.

  • Log:

    This is beyond my current ability to prove from the scriptures (that is, right this second, I don’t have the proper references); not that even scriptural proofs are received today.

    It is on repenting from all our sins and receiving of the spirit of Christ unto a remission of them (both things wrapped up at once in “calling upon the name of the Lord”) that we enter into a real, two-party covenant with God, wherein a covenant is impressed upon our souls, the substance of which is we covenant to obey God and keep his commandments. The first commandment to be obeyed is, of course, to be baptized by water, after which we are baptized by fire and the Holy Ghost.

    D&C 20:37
    37 And again, by way of commandment to the church concerning the manner of baptism—All those who humble themselves before God, and desire to be baptized, and come forth with broken hearts and contrite spirits, and witness before the church that they have truly repented of all their sins, and are willing to take upon them the name of Jesus Christ, having a determination to serve him to the end, and truly manifest by their works that they have received of the Spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins, shall be received by baptism into his church.

    The covenant having already been entered into prior to baptism is denoted by “having a determination to serve him to the end.”

    This is consistent with Nephite practice as well.

    3 Nephi 7:23-25
    23 Thus passed away the thirty and second year also. And Nephi did cry unto the people in the commencement of the thirty and third year; and he did preach unto them repentance and remission of sins.

    24 Now I would have you to remember also, that there were none who were brought unto repentance who were not baptized with water.

    25 Therefore, there were ordained of Nephi, men unto this ministry, that all such as should come unto them should be baptized with water, and this as a witness and a testimony before God, and unto the people, that they had repented and received a remission of their sins.

    “Repentance,” as it is used in the Book of Mormon, means to repent of all one’s sins and call upon the name of the Lord, in sincerity, believing one shall receive, for forgiveness / a remission of one’s sins / to receive the Holy Spirit of God.

    They weren’t permitted to be baptized unless they had been brought to repentance and received the remission of their sins, just as our law today says that should also be done.

    It is unfortunate we don’t hearken unto those things.

    D&C 84:54-59
    54 And your minds in times past have been darkened because of unbelief, and because you have treated lightly the things you have received—

    55 Which vanity and unbelief have brought the whole church under condemnation.

    56 And this condemnation resteth upon the children of Zion, even all.

    57 And they shall remain under this condemnation until they repent and remember the new covenant, even the Book of Mormon and the former commandments which I have given them, not only to say, but to do according to that which I have written—

    58 That they may bring forth fruit meet for their Father’s kingdom; otherwise there remaineth a scourge and judgment to be poured out upon the children of Zion.

    59 For shall the children of the kingdom pollute my holy land? Verily, I say unto you, Nay.

  • Log:

    How could I forget this?

    Moroni 6:1-4
    1 And now I speak concerning baptism. Behold, elders, priests, and teachers were baptized; and they were not baptized save they brought forth fruit meet that they were worthy of it.

    2 Neither did they receive any unto baptism save they came forth with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, and witnessed unto the church that they truly repented of all their sins.

    3 And none were received unto baptism save they took upon them the name of Christ, having a determination to serve him to the end.

    4 And after they had been received unto baptism, and were wrought upon and cleansed by the power of the Holy Ghost, they were numbered among the people of the church of Christ; and their names were taken, that they might be remembered and nourished by the good word of God, to keep them in the right way, to keep them continually watchful unto prayer, relying alone upon the merits of Christ, who was the author and the finisher of their faith.

    “Fruit meet that they were worthy of it” above is equivalent to “truly manifest by their works they have received of the Spirit of Christ unto a remission of their sins (D&C 20:37).” In both cases, they come forward having already entered into the covenant to serve Christ – “having a determination to serve him to the end.” It appears from this that entering into the covenant, and receiving of the Spirit of Christ unto a remission of one’s sins, is what constitutes taking upon oneself the name of Christ.

    This is similar to what Amulek taught, when he explained to the Zoramites how they were to apply Alma’s “planting the seed” in terms of immediate action:

    Alma 34:38
    Alma 34:38
    38 That ye contend no more against the Holy Ghost, but that ye receive it, and take upon you the name of Christ; that ye humble yourselves even to the dust, and worship God, in whatsoever place ye may be in, in spirit and in truth; and that ye live in thanksgiving daily, for the many mercies and blessings which he doth bestow upon you.

    Of course, by “humble yourselves even to the dust and worship God in whatsoever place ye may be in, in spirit and in truth,” he means it literally.

    2 Nephi 25:29
    2 Nephi 25:29
    29 And now behold, I say unto you that the right way is to believe in Christ, and deny him not; and Christ is the Holy One of Israel; wherefore ye must bow down before him, and worship him with all your might, mind, and strength, and your whole soul; and if ye do this ye shall in nowise be cast out.

    If one’s sins are remitted, is one still repenting? Can one whose sins are remitted repent? Or is one free from sins?

    Moroni 8:24-26
    24 Behold, my son, this thing ought not to be; for repentance is unto them that are under condemnation and under the curse of a broken law.

    25 And the first fruits of repentance is baptism; and baptism cometh by faith unto the fulfilling the commandments; and the fulfilling the commandments bringeth remission of sins;

    26 And the remission of sins bringeth meekness, and lowliness of heart; and because of meekness and lowliness of heart cometh the visitation of the Holy Ghost, which Comforter filleth with hope and perfect love, which love endureth by diligence unto prayer, until the end shall come, when all the saints shall dwell with God.

    Just some thoughts.

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